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9,500 Year Old Underwater City!

March 9th, 2011 | 10 Comments »

Welcome to the first post of my Yugas Blog!

I look forward to interesting discussions with people who find the yugas as significant and fascinating as I do. The concept of the yugas provides valuable insight as we examine the past, discuss the present, and look to the future — and that covers a lot of ground!

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Today’s topic: The 9,500 year old city found underwater in the Bay of Cambay in India.

The sunken city was surveyed in late 2001 and many amazing results were released in January of 2002. I continue to be surprised that this discovery hasn’t generated more interest. It is extraordinary.

The city is approximately 120 feet beneath the waters of the Bay of Cambay in Gujarat, on the northwest coast of India. The waters in the bay are nearly opaque from the high concentrations of silt in the water which make a visual study of the site almost impossible. However, archeologists were able to use side-scanning sonar to survey the site and used a dredge to obtain samples.

The first thing that makes this find extraordinary is its size — five miles long by two miles wide. This is huge by the standards of ancient cities. The second thing that makes this find extraordinary is its age — 9,500 years old (7500BC). The age was derived from carbon dating some of the artifacts which were brought up from the site including pieces of wood and human bones. The third thing that makes it extraordinary is sonar evidence of massive, rectilinear-stone blocks. The rectilinear outline of the stone blocks indicates that they were dressed and moved by people. These blocks are larger and older than any other manmade stone blocks known to archeology.

It is likely that the underwater city in the Bay of Cambay was part of the ancient Vedic civilization that includes Mehrgarh (9000 years old; 7000BC) in nearby Pakistan, and it is therefore the oldest known city of the Indus Valley Civilization (IVC). (The IVC’s later and better known ancient cities include Harrappa and Mohenjo-daro which were built around 3000BC.) Mehrgarh is the site of the world’s oldest known in-vivo dentistry (performed on a living person) as evidenced by (healed over) circular drill marks on the molars found in several skeletons.

The Bay of Cambay’s underwater city has been largely ignored in the West, as was the discovery of Mehrgahr in 1974, perhaps because it would mean the overthrow of the mainstream western view that the fertile crescent area (which includes the Tigris/Euphrates Valley) is the birthplace of civilization. Yet even the oldest cities in the fertile crescent are perhaps 8000 years old while most are 5000 years old or less. Mehrgarh and the sunken city in the Bay of Cambay predate even the oldest fertile crescent city by at least one thousand years.

In terms of the cycle of the yugas, the sunken city in the Bay of Cambay (7500BC) was built during the waning years of descending Satya Yuga (11,500BC to 6700BC), and Mehrgarh (7000BC) was built in the period of transition from descending Satya Yuga to descending Treta Yuga. (The 400 year Satya Yuga transition period, or sandhi, began in 7100BC.) Perhaps we will one day find even older cities, or perhaps we will find these cities were the first to be built — as the Paradisiacal influence of Satya Yuga waned and the slightly more material influence of Treta Yuga began.

Best regards,
Joseph Selbie


10 Responses to 9,500 Year Old Underwater City!

  1. Mantradevi says:

    It’s amazing to hear of discoveries still happening on this earth that change previous held ideas. I was under the impression that in Satya yugs other materials and means of building were used rather than the usual stone and wood. And, in addition, because mankind had attained such a peace and harmony with his environment, the weather stayed balmy, and therefore buildings weren’t even needed.

    • jselbie says:


      I agree with you. As Sri Yukteswar said, “Man’s natural home is beneath the trees.” There is also the Indian traditon of the ancient “forest rishis,” enlightened teachers who lived in great simplicity in Satya Yuga.

      But the Bay of Cambay underwater city doesn’t necessarily contradict this. Since the city apparently sprang up near the end of Satya Yuga simple living could still have been the norm for the vast majority of Satya Yuga.

      I’m not sure about other materials used in construction but if there were, perhaps they didn’t survive?

      Best regards,

  2. Micah Gordon says:

    This is fantastic, maybe some day they can figure out how to Dam the area off and take a better look at this ancient site.

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  4. Nayaswami Savitri says:

    This is great stuff–thanks! I just read a science fiction book about a sinister and secret group of terrorists who focus on suppressing or destroying any new archeological discoveries, which show that people have been around on this planet longer than the presently agreed-upon date. Not so far-fetched when you think about it. My theory about why there would be a “Satya Yuga Ruin” of buildings made of stone or whatever, is that, just like what we see in the present yuga, people live in all sorts of things, from steel high-rises to grass huts. I suspect that in every yuga there are all sorts of options, because people’s consciousness levels, though they may be generally much higher in Satya Yuga than in Kali Yuga, are never uniformly equal.

  5. Grazyna says:

    Nice details! I have been browsing for everything such as this for quite a while currently. Many thanks!

  6. I find discoveries like this one endlessly fascinating. I would guess that the lack of visibility adds to the lack of Western interest; but, what a find! Definitely hard to reconcile “hunter-gatherer” tribes with a five-mile by two-mile city composed of the largest stone blocks ever found.

  7. Nayaswami Krishnadas says:

    Very interesting! I remember this from the book. Facts like these really stand out when given in smaller, featured amounts like this. I look forward to more blogs. Having studied the subject for years, I found your book filled with amazing information and arranged in such an easy to understand format. Fabulous job!

  8. I love the ancient story of the churning of the oceans to create the Amrit of immortality. The swaying of Mt Meru as the world churns perfectly depicts the precessional cycle. But like the churning of butter, our journey through the Yugas is awfully destructive in that it seems to wipe the slate clean during the Kali Yuga, forcing us to start over again.

    Why must mankind be forced to re-invent and re-discover these things? Why can’t we be allowed to grow steadily in our development, rather than occasionally dipping into chaos?

    The Amrit must be very precious indeed, if the price we pay for it is the experience of the Dark Ages!!!

  9. Lance says:

    Many of us know mankind has been on this earth much much longer than the scientific community generally acknowledges. If something doesn’t fit into the preconceptions they try to refute the finding. Look at Gobekli Tepi. Some are still saying it was built by hunter gatherers when there are men depicted in V-neck clothing. Also the oceans rose 300 feet about 9,000 years ago. Can you imagine how many ancient cities along coast lines there are. Something else people don’t discuss much is that the population centers in the ancient Indus Valley, which go back at least 5,000 years, were laid out by engineers. Evidence suggest people moved there from else where. Setting up a city with public baths, sewer lines and so forth. Fascinating.

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